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The Baseball Show: The Yu Darvish Edition

On the latest installment of The Baseball Show, Clint, MJ, and I discussed the week’s most interesting story lines as well as our usual assortment of nonsense.

We started things off by discussing Yu Darvish and how his signing was inevitable after the Rangers posted a $51.7MM bid, so it’s no surprise that they ultimately paid $111MM.  According to MJ, Darvish would have to produce a 22 WAR over the next six years to justify his price.  But what separates Darvish from previous imports like Hideo Nomo and Dice-K?

We also debate whether or not Darvish will perform like the No. 1 starter that Rangers expect him to be.

We discuss MJ’s Baseball Prospectus debut, “The Advantage of Low Expectations,” which has been well received throughout the baseball blogosphere.

A day after our last show, the Yankees and Mariners conducted a big-time prospect swap, as the Bronx Bombers sent Jesus Montero and Hector Noesi to the Mariners for Michael Pineda and Jose Campos.  We evaluate the trade and can’t help but feel that the Yankees were on the winning end of this swap.

Who has received the best return for their starting pitcher this offseason? Although we agree the Padres received a great haul for Mat Latos, we unanimously agree the A’s received the best return this offseason.

And of course, what would The Baseball Show be without “Ask MJ…”

Clint:

Would you take a job in the Angels front office if it were offered to you today?

Yes

Cure for hangover? No booze – note: you can’t say “more booze.”

You’re going to have to find a Waffle House and order the greasiest Cheese Stake plate with hash browns and jalapeños to get through it.

Weirdest thing you’ve ever owned or collected?

I was a huge baseball card fan, but mainly when I was growing up I spent a lot of money on hockey cards for some reason.  I doubt I could get anything for my Pavel Buree rookie card.  I do have an autographed John Smoltz Starting Lineup figurine still in its package.

If you could sit at a bar and have a drink with any three sports figures, who would it be and why?

1)    Mickey Mantle – We’re going to have a good time and hopefully get into some trouble

2)    Wayne Gretzky – He was my hero growing up

3)    Dana White – I like I guy who curses every other word

4)    More so 3a) Mike Trout received an honorable mention provided that MJ can find him a semi-decent fake I.D.

Clint:

1)    Mickey Mantle

2)    Willie Mays, but he’s just an old saltry prick

3)    Joe Nameth – he likes to drink Johnny Walker

4)    Babe Ruth – The more drunk Yankees the better

Mike:

1)    Mickey Mantle

2)    Michael Jordan

3)    Mark Grace

We agree that Vin Scully would have to be there to narrate the entire night.

Mike:

If you could sponsor one BR page, regardless of price, who would it be?

Too easy. I literally sat around waiting for Mike Trout to buy his page. If not, then it would probably be Barry Bonds.

Your favorite Disney movie?

Cinderalla, and you’re not going to believe his response…

Rookie of the Year or the Sandlot?

The Sandlot. No question.

Celery or Celery Salt?

Celery. They should just re-name it “ranch shovel”

Jered Weaver: Long hair or short hair?

Long hair! Come on, he’s a dirt bag.

If you could assume a fake identity, what would it be?

MJ: Viagra Nopantsman, a middle-aged pitcher; Hunter Dye and he’d carry around a shotgun like Omar from The Wire.

CE: Chet Rockwell, 29 yrs old, DH, can’t run

MR: Speechless


Top 50 Prospects: #10 – Jesus Montero

#10 Jesus Montero

Seattle Mariners

DOB: 11/28/1989

Previous Rank: 7

ETA: 2011

As the centerpiece of the deal that sent Michael Pineda, a power arm in his early 20s that has already been named to an All-Star team, Montero obviously has earned himself quite a reputation already.  This trade is further evidence of the reevaluation that is taking place with regards to the relative worth of premier bats and premier arms.  Additionally this represents the second consecutive season in which the Mariners have managed to land a hitter in our top 10.

Montero blew up at Yankee Stadium, slashing .328/.406/.590 in 61 at-bats during the Yanks’ playoff push.  While no one expects him to immediately hit that way to open 2012, and he notoriously starts slow regardless, that slash line is not impossible or even unlikely for the 22-year-old catcher/1B/DH/?.

Year Age Tm Lg Lev G PA AB R 2B 3B HR RBI BA
2007 17 Yankees GULF Rk 33 123 107 13 6 0 3 19 .280
2008 18 Charleston SALL A 132 569 525 86 34 1 17 87 .326
2009 19 2 Teams 2 Lgs A+-AA 92 379 347 45 25 1 17 70 .337
2009 19 Tampa FLOR A+ 48 198 180 26 15 1 8 37 .356
2009 19 Trenton EL AA 44 181 167 19 10 0 9 33 .317
2010 20 Scranton/Wilkes-Barre IL AAA 123 504 453 66 34 3 21 75 .289
2011 21 Scranton/Wilkes-Barre IL AAA 109 463 420 52 19 1 18 67 .288
5 Seasons 489 2038 1852 262 118 6 76 318 .308
AAA (2 seasons) AAA 232 967 873 118 53 4 39 142 .289
A (1 season) A 132 569 525 86 34 1 17 87 .326
AA (1 season) AA 44 181 167 19 10 0 9 33 .317
Rk (1 season) Rk 33 123 107 13 6 0 3 19 .280
A+ (1 season) A+ 48 198 180 26 15 1 8 37 .356
Year Age Tm Lg Lev G PA AB HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB
2007 17 Yankees GULF Rk 33 123 107 3 19 12 18 .280 .366 .421 .786 45
2008 18 Charleston SALL A 132 569 525 17 87 37 83 .326 .376 .491 .868 258
2009 19 2 Teams 2 Lgs A+-AA 92 379 347 17 70 28 47 .337 .389 .562 .951 195
2009 19 Tampa FLOR A+ 48 198 180 8 37 14 26 .356 .406 .583 .989 105
2009 19 Trenton EL AA 44 181 167 9 33 14 21 .317 .370 .539 .909 90
2010 20 Scranton/Wilkes-Barre IL AAA 123 504 453 21 75 46 91 .289 .353 .517 .870 234
2011 21 Scranton/Wilkes-Barre IL AAA 109 463 420 18 67 36 98 .288 .348 .467 .814 196
5 Seasons 489 2038 1852 76 318 159 337 .308 .366 .501 .867 928
AAA (2 seasons) AAA 232 967 873 39 142 82 189 .289 .351 .493 .843 430
A (1 season) A 132 569 525 17 87 37 83 .326 .376 .491 .868 258
AA (1 season) AA 44 181 167 9 33 14 21 .317 .370 .539 .909 90
Rk (1 season) Rk 33 123 107 3 19 12 18 .280 .366 .421 .786 45
A+ (1 season) A+ 48 198 180 8 37 14 26 .356 .406 .583 .989 105
Year Age Tm G PA AB R H 2B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2007 17 NYY-min 33 123 107 13 30 6 3 19 12 18 .280 .366 .421 .786
2008 18 NYY-min 132 569 525 86 171 34 17 87 37 83 .326 .376 .491 .868
2009 19 NYY-min 92 379 347 45 117 25 17 70 28 47 .337 .389 .562 .951
2010 20 NYY-min 123 504 453 66 131 34 21 75 46 91 .289 .353 .517 .870
2011 21 NYY-min 109 463 420 52 121 19 18 67 36 98 .288 .348 .467 .814
2011 21 NYY 18 69 61 9 20 4 4 12 7 17 .328 .406 .590 .996
1 Season 18 69 61 9 20 4 4 12 7 17 .328 .406 .590 .996
162 Game Avg. 162 621 549 81 180 36 36 108 63 153 .328 .406 .590 .996

We at The Sombrero expect Montero to be used a lot like Victor Martinez was used in 2011 with Detroit.  Everyone is fully aware of Montero’s struggles behind the dish and the unlikely prognosis of him ever even reaching replacement level status as a backstop.  Montero is slow, uninterested, and inaccurate behind the dish.  He calls a poor game and is likely to be bad defensively no matter where he plays.  The logical play is to put him wherever he can do the least damage on the defensive end. He is plus to double-plus in both the hit and power tools as well as the eye tool.

It remains to be seen exactly what Seattle intends to do with Montero given the presence of Justin Smoak at first, suggesting that some time behind the dish might be expected in 2012.  Wherever he plays, Montero is an All-Star-caliber player and needs absolutely no more seasoning on the farm.  He should open 2012 hitting somewhere near or within the middle of Seattle’s order.

Top 50 Prospects: #11 – Danny Hultzen

#11 Danny Hultzen

Seattle Mariners

DOB: 11/28/1989

Previous Rank: N/A

ETA: 2012

Hultzen is the best pitcher in the history of the Virginia Cavaliers and was drafted second overall in the 2011 draft in what will go down as the deepest draft in history as far as collegiate pitching goes.  His first taste of professional baseball came in the form of six starts in the Arizona Fall League.  He gave up three runs in around 20 innings, striking out nearly a guy an inning and walking five.  The small sample really tells us nothing new and hardly confirms anything we already supposed.

Regardless, Hultzen should break camp with the Mariners out of Spring Training, and we see no reason to expect him not to succeed immediately.  His 6-foot-3 frame is athletic, and his mechanics are repeatable, although not textbook.  He is a bit of an across-the-body thrower with some wrap in the back, but there is nothing in his delivery that screams injury to us.  He has a fastball that can reach 97 mph as well as an above-average to plus changeup with good fade and excellent command.

His breaking pitch improved greatly in the last season and, while it was not nearly as sharp during the NCAA season, looked like a solid average pitch in the AFL.  His command with all three is above-average, and in a yard like Safeco, Hultzen should make several All-Star teams and have a very solid and lengthy career.


Top 50 Prospects: #39 – Taijuan Walker

#39 Taijuan Walker

Seattle Mariners

DOB: 8/13/1992

Previoius Rank: N/R

ETA: 2014

Walker was Seattle’s first pick in the 2010 draft, and the 6-foot-4 right-hander had a terrific first professional season in the Midwest League (A).  He threw up a sub-3.00 ERA with 113 strikeouts against 39 walks.  He only allowed four jacks in nearly 100 innings of work and has a chance to be a very fast mover in hopes of reaching the Bigs in time to join Felix Hernandez, Michael Pineda, and Danny Hultzen at Safeco.

Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff W L W-L% ERA G GS CG IP BB SO
2010 17 Mariners ARIZ Rk SEA 1 1 .500 1.29 4 0 0 7.0 3 9
2011 18 Clinton MIDW A SEA 6 5 .545 2.89 18 18 1 96.2 39 113
2 Seasons 7 6 .538 2.78 22 18 1 103.2 42 122
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/22/2011.
Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff W L ERA IP WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2010 17 Mariners ARIZ Rk SEA 1 1 1.29 7.0 0.714 2.6 0.0 3.9 11.6 3.00
2011 18 Clinton MIDW A SEA 6 5 2.89 96.2 1.117 6.4 0.4 3.6 10.5 2.90
2 Seasons 7 6 2.78 103.2 1.090 6.2 0.3 3.6 10.6 2.90
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/22/2011.

Walker is extremely athletic with loads of projection and a fastball that reaches the high-90s.  With a big downer curve that receives consistent plus to double-plus gradings, Walker already has at least two plus pitches.  His changeup is way behind the other two pitches, but Walker is already making huge strides in terms of command and clearly seems to understand what it means to pitch.  The addition of an average or better changeup could see Walker land in the Show by 2013 so long as he breezes through the high Minors like he has with Class A.

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Video: Danny Hultzen in the Arizona Fall League

Danny Hultzen, the second-overall pick in the 2011 MLB Draft by the Seattle Mariners, has made two starts for the Peoria Javelinas of the Arizona Fall League. In his professional debut against the Surprise Saguaros, a team loaded with prospects like Tim Beckham, Wil Myers, and Matt Dominguez, the left-hander allowed one run on three hits while issuing a walk and fanning two over two innings.

Hultzen’s second start against the Mesa Solar Sox was a bit rockier, as he allowed one run on six hits and one walk over three innings.  Although he didn’t record a strikeout, Hultzen escaped serious damage thanks to seven groundball outs.

Through two, brief starts, his line reads: 5 IP, 3.50 ERA, 9 H, 2 BB, 2 K, 4.50 GO/AO

Courtesy of MLB Prospect Portal, here is a clip of Hultzen warming up before his start against the Solar Sox: